'She is mistress of Barry's now.'

By now we had walked some distance up the bank, as far as the Paris garden, the houses starting to give way to open countryside. Lady Honor stopped and looked across the river at the bulk of Bridewell Palace. Her ladies and servants halted at the same moment, ten paces behind. A cloud passed across the sun, softening the light and easing the heat.

She looked at me seriously. 'Matthew, I do hope I am not in trouble with Lord Cromwell. It preys on my mind. Did you talk with him?'

'I repeated what you said. He spoke of you admiringly.'

She looked relieved. 'Yes, they all like coming to my banquets, Lord Cromwell and the duke and all the courtiers. But in these times – well, I know each side wonders if my sympathies lie with the other. When in truth-' she gave a little laugh – 'I am with neither. I know if the duke learned I was helping Lord Cromwell in connection with secret enquiries, he would not be pleased.' She smiled sadly. 'You see how I am trapped. Yet I only ever wanted good conversation round my table.'

I grimaced. 'In these times it is hard to avoid getting caught in the tangles of the great. Often I think I would like to retire to the country.'

'I am thinking of escaping to Lincolnshire, to my family estates. Though I love London, unlike my nephew. But I suppose the earl would want me to stay while this business is on.'

'Yes. I think he would, my lady.' I hesitated. 'I spoke with Serjeant Marchamount in the boat coming over.'

'I saw your heads together.' Her eyes were suddenly watchful. 'Were you checking what I had told you?'

'Yes, I had to. You must understand that.'

Her face reddened. 'And I thought we might relax today, have a pleasant day out.'

'Come, Lady Honor, you know better than that.'

Her lips set. 'Do I? Is it so strange I should hope for a little converse with a congenial companion, having answered all his enquiries?'

I was not to be distracted. 'Marchamount appeared surprised when I said the Duke of Norfolk was after your lands.' I hesitated. 'My impression was that that was not the subject the two of them were discussing at the banquet, when he spoke of getting Marchamount to press you.'

'Am I to have no peace?' she asked softly. She closed her eyes a moment, then met mine again, fiercely. 'Matthew, I swore on the Bible that Norfolk has asked me no questions about Greek Fire and I swore truly. And it is true that he is after my lands. That is how it started.'

'How what started?'

'Something that became more complicated. A family matter that is none of your business. It has no connection with your wretched papers and formulae.'

'Can you be sure of that?'

'Yes.' She sighed wearily. 'I am going to say no more, Matthew.' She raised a hand. 'If you want you can tell Cromwell and he can have me brought before him. He will get the same answer. Some matters are private.'

'The days of private matters among aristocratic families are gone, my lady. Such matters led to the wars of Lancaster and York.'

She turned a face to me that was utterly weary. 'Yes, all power is with the House of Tudor now. Yet is it not hard to take seriously, the king as head of the Church deciding how his people should relate to God, when his policy is ruled by his fickle passions?'

She spoke softly, but nonetheless I glanced back nervously at her servants. She smiled ruefully. 'I have been accompanied everywhere by servants since I was a baby. I know how to pitch my voice so they cannot hear.'

'That is still dangerous talk, Lady Honor.'

'It's the talk of the streets. But you are right, these days we have to be careful what we say.'

We walked on for a little in silence. 'It is not easy always having servants around one,' she said suddenly. 'Often I wish them far away. I remember once when I was a little girl my mother took me to the roof of our house. She showed me all the fields and woods, stretching away in every direction. She said, "They are ours, Honor, as far as you can see, and once our family owned the country all the way to Nottingham." It was a windy spring day, she held my hand as we stood on the flat leads. Her ladies and my governess were there with their dresses billowing in the wind and all at once I wished I could fly away over those woods and fields, alone, like a bird.' She shook her head sadly. 'But we are bound to the earth, are we not? We are not birds. We have responsibilities. Mine is my family.'

'I am sorry I pressed you again, but-'

'No more, Matthew, I am weary.'

'Perhaps we should return to the baiting-'

She shook her head. 'No, I cannot face it. Would you walk with me a little further, to the next river stairs? I will send a servant back to say I have been taken faint.' She screwed up her eyes as the cloud passed and the hot sun appeared again, bringing sparkling waves of silver to the brown Thames water.

We walked on slowly. I felt a boor for constantly pressing her thus. But I had to; my feelings, and hers, were unimportant. A large barge, full of building materials, passed us on the way to Whitehall and for a moment I imagined it ablaze from end to end, the water around it on fire.

'Perhaps you think my devotion to family foolish,' she said, interrupting my grim thoughts.

'Not foolish. Single-minded, perhaps.'

'Were not things better when the aristocracy owned the lands rather than it being turned over to these new men who put it to pasture and throw the peasantry on the road? Sheep eat men, they say.'

'Ay, and it is a great abuse. But I would not have learning and the chance to rise denied the common people.'

She shook her head though she smiled. 'I think you consider me innocent in some ways.' Jesu, I thought, how sharp she is. 'But I venture to say you are the innocent one. For every man who comes to town and manages to rise from the common herd there are a hundred, a thousand, who starve in the gutters.'

'Then measures should be taken for their welfare.'

'That will never happen. The lawyers and merchants in parliament will never allow it. Is that no so? They have put down all the reforms Cromwell had brought before them.'

I hesitated. 'Yes.'

'So much for your new man.'

I shook my head. 'Lady Honor, I think you are the cleverest woman I have met for a long time.'

'You are not used to bright converse from women, that is all.' She smiled at me. 'I think, Matthew, we disagree about the right ordering of society. Well, that is good, disagreement adds flavour to discourse. And I am glad you have known other women who were not content to drop their eyes and talk of cooking and embroidery.'

'I knew one.' I paused, fingering my mourning ring. 'I wished to marry her, but she died.'

'I am sorry,' she said. 'I know what it is like to lose a loved one. Is that ring for her?'

'Kate was engaged to another by then.' How Lady Honor could make me speak from the heart, of things I told few others.

'That is doubly sad. Did you not press your suit then?' Again, her directness was hardly good manners, but I did not mind.

'I did not. I was afraid she would not have me.'

'Because of your – your condition?' Even Lady Honor struggled for a moment to find the appropriate word.

'Ay.' I looked away, across the river.

'You are a fool to worry about that. You will waste your opportunities.'

'Perhaps.' I stepped aside to let a young couple pass, their pet dog gambolling at their heels. Even as her words warmed me I told myself: be careful.

'Perhaps you think all women seek in a man is a tall carriage and a fine calf,' she said.

'Those do not harm a man's prospects.'

'They are no help if he has coarse features or a poor wit. My husband was near twenty years older than me when we married. Yet we were happy. Happy.'

'Perhaps I should leave off this ring,' I said. 'I confess I think of Kate seldom now.'